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NCIE SONIC ^^ IAM NEW IS GOOD YOU STILE

Impressive.

Oh yes, and he can run 600 mph BACKWARDS too!

What a messed up game THAT was....Seriously, Why cant they make a decent game where Sonic Didnt need to turn into the Hulk--I mean, Werehog....What happened to the good old days where all I needed was a Genesis? *SMiles*

ANYWAYS, awesome Picture here, you're doing bnetter every day.

*likes the newer Sonic games more than the classics* D:> ... ... ...

um.

Well then.

Awkward. >_>;

*also likes the werehog*

Thank you.

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Meh... I liked this game. Even the werehog levels. It was beautifully designed and finally brought back Sonic's true speed.

To hell with that! No! Sonic on the Genesis was TRULY a MASTER PIECE.

I'll admit that the old sonic games were somewhat good, but they were also very annoying since they all had the same concept with no storyline.

Now that Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is in production, SEGA might get their popularity back.

Sonic Unleashed was the last good Sonic game since SA2B.. people are just to quick to judge.

This was Sonic game that actually took SKILL.

No, After playing Sonic Unleashed I saw it as....He was on a leash, not unleashed at all, the controls were HORRIBLE, and the cocept of it? Rediculous, wghen I was a Kid, Sonic never needed a gun, sword or Wolf Powers, no, only a spindash, and a Jump.


The originals DID have a storyline, first of all, the 1st game declared Sonic and Dr. Robotnik fighting for the Chaos emeralds for the first time, the second showing Tails' Debut, and the third was the best, showing more to Sonic's Power, and Knuckle's Grabde Debut. Robotnik tricking Knuckles into believing that Sonic was the enemy was good, after he stole the Super Emerald (Or the Master emerald to those who never played the Genesis and lived), and Sonic got to show off his Super Sonic Powers. (Yes I know, Soic 2 had it too, but just....not as awesome). Dont think the Old games were lousy for nothing, just because something looks shinier, hell no... Sonic was a classic then, and he's dying because off all the LOUSY spinoffs, I mean, Come ON, A sword? What is this Legend of Zelda?

um, that's not a storyline. That's ONE story, and a bunch of gimmicks.

The different things (i.e., werehog, sword, gun) were marketing tricks to ensure that people who WEREN'T familiar with Sonic became interested in the game (like me). It worked. Sega now has a bajillion little kids as their fanbase.

Who NEEDS you guys? You, who can't seem to accept that in a world where there are games like Assassin's Creed 2, jumping and running is NOT going to cut it anymore. There are games out there that will pull you in with their special "new ways to kill and swear" technique. What does Sonic have? Sonic has the message of "friendship". The only problem is that no one gives a frack about friendship anymore. No one WANTS to be nice. All they want is to make a headshot.

Not only THAT, but if all Sonic ever did in a game was run and jump, you'd have a 2-hour long game at BEST. It takes a while to make ONE MILE of game world. Now take Sonic, who can travel at 600 MPH. See the problem? That's why there are gimmicks. That's why there is the werehog. That's why Shadow had a bajillion different endings in his spin-off game. It's to make it longer.

Now, which version of Unleashed did you own? Last time I checked, the controls were sharp, and extremely well done.

Both games, and the Controls Wwere HORRIBLE either way, it was like taking a blender and filling it with Pig vomit, and my shoot, and making a smoothie out of it.


and this is why the world is crumbling beneathe us, VIOLENCE. Sonic STILL Never needed a DAMn Sword, or Werewolf powers, if Yuji Naka was back in the DAMN throne, maybe we'de have a damn game worth LOKKING at, What's Next? Call of Sonic? Tails' Dreamland? Super Princess Amy? Or can they make a game all can ACTUALLY ENJOY, the LAst 3d Game I enjoyed was Sonic 2006. the game made me feel like I was Playing Sonic adventure on the Dreamcast ALL OVER AGAIn, and that console was awesome, but thanks to a shootty Sony and their Damn PS2's DVD Playback feature, they could've stayed in the race....but lost....

The Gimmicks NEED TO Stop. Nothing is original anymore.

and Also, IF IT WASNT FOR US, YOU WOULSNT EVEN HAVE A SONIC GAME. WHERE DID IT AL BEGIN? SONIC 1 NOT SONIC UNLEASHED. HOW DID SONIC'S POPULARITY START? IN THE BEGINING, AND YOU CAN THINK ALL YOU WANT ABOUT THE OLD SONIC, THE OLD SONIC ACTUALLY FELT COOL, NO, HE HAS TO HAVE A DAMN 2 CLONES, AND A DUMBASS STORYLINE.

I know where it starts. I don't hate the classic Sonic. I just like the newer one better.

Oh, btw, IGN gave Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing an 8/10. X3

Now I cannot wait for it! It'll fee like Sonic Drift! or Mario Kart Wii, where I get to play as my MII, or Avatar.

I can wait... but then again, I never liked Sonic Drift or Mario Kart since all of the Mario Karts were all the same

As for all this violence and guns nonsense... all applies to SHADOW. With the games with Sonic as the main character, all the violence was cartoon violence. Sonic never needed a gun. As for the sword, I think it's pretty cool. Afterall, he got a brand new and epic form. More badass than anything Nintendo could ever come up with for Mario.

And duh... obviously Sonic 1 started it all... but as time goes on... Sonic must evolve into something different. He cant stay the same way as the years go by.

Mario has been the same ever since Nintendo spawned that god-awful italian carpenter/plumber.

Save the princess from Bowser... whether it's sports related or some other weird-@$$ situation. He saves a princess... Sonic saves the WORLD

Sonic's like a bipedal blue superhero! :D

WHO CARES? None of it ever mattered, in the end it was the same damn thing! Sonic saves the earth from yet some other retarded final boss, and Mario saved the princess from a Turtle, The END, Adios! Bye Bye! ....See you later.......*Snorts*

turtles are lame. This, I know.

Also, whaddaya MEAN "retarded"? If anything, Perfect Chaos, The Biolizard, and Dark Gaia were ALL intimidating. And Dark Gaia was seriously hard to beat. XD

Dark Gaia was also very ANNOYING XD

STOP THROWING FLAMING ROCKS AT ME, DAMN IT D<

Dark Gaia was hard, I'll give you that, but the other bosses were easy, that's what I mean by Retarded...too easy....Beat them in under a minute. I LOVE SA and SA2, the game was exiterating, and I still paly them to this day, hoping they make another game like them.

They may have been easy, but they were also very original.

Perfect Chaos and Biolizard were epic bosses, along with Perfect Dark Gaia.

Solaria and Iblis... not so much (by that I mean not epic). they were basically the same boss, just one was on fire

I thought they were fine Bosses!

meh... the only thing I liked about the Solaris fight was playing as Super Silver

as for Iblis... well all of it's fights were basically the same

eh. that was ok...

i guess I just say that because I'm a die-heard Silver fan

I prefer him WAAY more than that emo, Shadow

THANK YOU.

You may be able to beat them in a minute, but can you get an S on them? THAT'S the challenge. Getting that perfect grade. I had to retry over and over again against the Egg Lancer (?) in order to achieve the S rank.

And I know this isn't a boss battle, but what about EGGMANLAND? Holy shoot, that level ate so many of my lives. The best I can get on it is an A. XD

And some blonde Mary Sue is over 9000 times more important than the world becaaaaaause...?

I thought you hated the gimmicks. Isn't a car a gimmick? XD

Nah, cars I wont hate, I mean, it reminds me of sonic drift, and that was a good game, I mean something that changes what he is, i mean, a poodle--I mean werehog is something that just looks rediculous....

I loved the werehog. You know why? He can whoop your @$$ in a second.

Beating together two of Dark Gaia's minions was hella fun for me. The only thing I didn't like about the werehog was his battle music, and his death cry.

Werehogs are a joke. Not like a WERE WOLF.

I've accepted that the werehog isn't a real werewolf. I do not care. Making him do a drill-like move into an enemy's face is just too fun.

Metaknight can do that too, probably not as fun though, i'll give you that too. :3 See? I can be nice, I'm not a total Retro fan.

It's not that you're nice, or not, it's if you think a certain move is fun. XD

Also, I enjoy making the werehog do a huge tantrum with his fists.

oh, you mean the fist thumping thingy?

yes'm :3

TYPING IN ALL CAPS GIVES ME AUTHORITY, FOR I AM DOOMLORD.

Troll....

Nope. I just happen to look deeper into things whereas you think with your keyboard.

He's not a troll, he's just a friend of mine who enjoys defending his buddies.

You should'nt bring 'em in, it's only me and you, noone else. I can bring in many more of my kind. Besides, I know how a troll talks. He should'nt talk to me like that then, and did I ever threaten you? No. So there's nothing to defend.

On the contrary, you brought yourself into our little discussion. Everything was hunky-dory until you decided to come in with your butt-hurt ways.

"butt-hurt" is a troll term, Chris. :/

I dunno, I've been seeing it everywhere >.>

..........Butt hurt? are you SURE you're not a troll? I was head of a retalion on her back in the Great Troll war.

Oh, yes. I'm absolutely sure. Because as big as a dick-hole I can be, I have my limits.

I'll be watching you then. I fI DO see some activities, I will report it. Not a threat. I've seen many people play off as the "I'm no troll" Type, and it bit me in the @$$.

I've dealt with the same shoot before. Am I complaining? No. I've been called worse in front of my face.

So yes, I will watch myself.

Careful about what you say, chris. you're already on thin Ice with me....


and good.

Don't you fracking dare call me by my first name. Not yet.

Oh, well. than WHAT do you wanna be called then.

oh, and....


WATCH YOUR frackING LANGUAGE!!!!


hehe.

You may call me "Cleaner of the Internet Gene Pool"

but it DID come from 4chan. :/

I didn't "bring him in", he came on his own. .___.

Also, he was actually quoting something funny on youtube, and applying it to your all-caps post. I do have a friendly word of advice - do not EVER, EVORS type in all caps when you're debating with someone. It makes you seem like a huge douchebag (this is not meant to be a personal attack, but a warning, as when you debate with people, not all of them are friendly, and most will use the all-caps as a weapon against your point)

Good thing you said that, cause it DID sound like a personal attack, you saved a whole war on your hands, and I thank you. And if he came on his own, I'll ignore it then, and I havent ever seen whatever he saw on youtube, stupid computer and uits blocks.....

ah, well, the youtube guy was mocking a Sonic 06 rant.

pfff... yeah... he mocked you ONCE so that instantly makes zukoinferno a troll... you jump to conclusions to quickly

Y'mean take away the springs, and the dashpanels? Because those are also gimmicks.

Also, wtf? Were you playing the Wii version? frack the Wii version! The Xbox 360 and PS3 version are what it's all about!

Lol, what VIOLENCE? You mean the mild CARTOON violence that you see in Looney Toons? I was talking about ripping peoples' heads off (God of War). Yuji Nakka, btw, gave up on Sonic after Sonic 2. Not Sonic 2006. He only LEFT after Sonic 06. He abandoned Sonic. ABANDONED him. LONG before Sonic had those less-than-popular games.

If you thought that Sonic was ripping off LoZ (just like the other sheep), then, really, no. If that "law of ripping off were-creature games" exsisted, then, in reality, LoZ ripped off Altered Beast. Which was a SEGA game. As for the sword, he used the damn thing in a King Arthur storybook, not a magical forest full of fairies and a creepy guy who sells maps. And the sword talks. Just because Link also happens to use a sword, doesn't mean Sonic was ripping LoZ off. It just means he's using a goddamn sword. As a sawblade. Day-um, that's badass.

I am a LoZ fan. Don't think I'm fully devoted to Sonic. I loved Twilight Princess, even after the friggin water temple. I was THERE when OoT came out. I WAS THERE. I just think that accusing Sonic of redonkulous things is silly. Did you even PLAY SatBK?

I wasnt even talking about the violence anymore, dont push this into a different direction. I'm done with that bit, and ok, you were there for Oracina of time, cool and all, but what does that prove?


also, no, the springboards are, and always will be, what sonic always had in a game, much like Kirby with the Warpstar, or Mario with a Mushroom, or Donkey kong with a Barrel. They're not much of a gimmick...not enough of anything really....

It means that, as much as I enjoy LoZ, I'm not going to immedietally accuse Sonic of ripping off the series JUST because he has a sword.

Kirby didn't start out with the warp star, and Mario didn't start out with his 'shrooms. Mario wasn't even MARIO first - he was JUMP-MAN. The mushrooms were a gimmick that stayed. Also, Donkey Kong only had his barrels for, like, one (or two) games. Then he was done with them.

The thing about a game is that, without gimmicks, there would be no challenge. The meaning of the word "gimmick", I think, is more different than you realize.

I know all of that, but when you think about them, you think of the ONE item most assosiated with them, I know Mario was known as Jump Man, and he was actually how he got his look...but DO YOU? *Smiles* This is fun.

Unless memory fails you, the recent "Project Needlemouse" was named after Sonic's prototype name... And how is loosing a comment war fun?

it's not a war, dear sir, it's a debate. Debates over Sonic, unfortunetally, can be as intense as political ones. :/

Ugh, don't even remind me... >_<

it's so crazy. XD

The whole freaking FAN-BASE is crazy >.> ... Well, not as much as the Twilight fan-base, but... XDDD

Twilight Sucks @$$.

FINALLY!! We agree on something like decent men!

Haha! Awesome!

*losing

frack.

The sword isn't the one item most associated with LoZ... the item "sword" is not copyrighted. HOWEVER, the triforce is definetaly owned by Nintendo.

I already knew all about Jump-Man (once again, I'm a renegade Mario Fan). Did you know that Mario was a villain in the game released directly after that one?

what about the handheld Sonic games? :/

It was run gimmick run gimmick run gimmick...

Sonic Unleashed had some diversity. |3

AMEN! I want a sequel!

Agreed!

NO. NO Sequel for you! MAKE A DAMN SONIC SIDESCROLLER!!!!

um. Sonic 4.

I'm talking about sonic unleashed.

and we were replying to your petty cry for a SIDESCROLLER OMG WAH I WANT A frackING SIDECROLLER

Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is going to be a 3-D side scroller... basically just a remake of Sonic 1-3

pfff... they even remade and renamed Green Hill zone

You know, why are you even talking? this is between him and me, not you.

I'm a girl, and I completely agree with fanfictionist.

Sonic 4 is a continuation of Sonic 1-3 because the "classic" Sonic fans wouldn't shut up about how much they wanted a side-scrolling nostalgia fest (because original ideas are SUUUPER lame)

you need to put up your gender, so what I said doesnt ever happen again.

Derp. You completely ignored the important part of my response. D:

Derp is also a Troll response.

Uh... not really.

"Derp" was never started on 4chan, so it's not a troll response.

4chan is'nt an all knowing site, it's not like people and thier dumbass god. it can exist in different places.

still, it's not a troll response since trolls most likely didnt start using the word.

and please, watch what you say about people and god... it can be offensive to others

Yes they did. They used that word, and many others whn this place was overun with them. BELIEVE ME.

even if that's true... just because a user uses "derp", that does not make them a troll

I am always on the watch for 'em. It doesnt matter to me who it is. I will look for it.

so you'll report anyone who says "derp"?

Not report, but watch, and see what he/she/it does. Words like that usually mean they're harrasing someone, so i patrol this site, just to make sure everyone gets along.

"Derp" is what you say after making, or seeing a strange/odd/irrelevant/stupid/chocolate/weird response.

......What? Help me get with it, Jack!

derp

....come again......?

I saaaaiiiiiid

deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrp

yeah, not really.

i've seen just about all of my friends on FAC use derp

if it's between you two, then why the hell did you say this NOW instead of saying it fracking FOREVER ago?

hmmm? im waitiiing~

I'm simply stating true facts like Critic is -w- so it doesnt really matter... so I suggest you stop whining

Yeah... Sonic 4

Sonic 4 = 3D Side-scrolling Sonic game like Sonic 1-3

*loveglomp*

Thats awesome. :3 I love the background.

faves. just faves.

too bad the wii version dosnt have that stage... ._.

*faves the pic*

Whelp, that's why I has the Xbawx 360 version! >8D

lol, thanks for the fave. :P

:D YES. Some one else finally notices that he is the only one who can run on walls :D *worships you*
This is so, so, so, so incredibly awesome and superior that I am unable to say anything coherent ^^

hee ~ Thank you, kind person. XD

Wait, no, Shadow can run on walls too. Kinda. Only for, like, three seconds, then he falls.

you mean wall JUMPING? XD

Oh yeah. DX Gawd, I hated those parts...

No....I just feel like it's fighting...I-I should J-Just leave.......................*Tears* I ALWAYS START EVERYTHING!!!!!!

lawl XD

Go ahead, take pride in hurting another, you pricks!

NOBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE ME BECAUS THE WORLD IS AGAINST ME- oh, please. Cut the shoot. I've been bullied for almost 9 years of my life. Did I cut myself and listen to Linkin Park (not that I'm suggesting that you do)? No. I sucked it up and kept living my life. I suggest you do the same.

HARSH, dude. :/

Now you see why i'm a wreck? I'm looking around me, and all I see is DEATH. Death comes for me NEXT. I try to be happy, but it doesnt WORK....*Tears* They never did anything to anybody..................Why them? My mother once told me to never fight anyone, and this is how I feel....before she died, I promised her i would keep that promise....and now...........I feel like i broke it.................*cries*

... Enlighten me of where you live, please?

No! I'm not saying anything.....

Doomlord. This is the internet, not a war.

You haven't broken anything.

I-I know....But I made a promise to my Mother....10 years ago....whether its in reality, or here, to never fight anyone...I felt as though I was making it into a fight, because people were ganging up on me.....it was three of you, and only one of me....just like in the past. I was always beaten senseless, hell, almost close to death, by people who would'nt care if i never messed with them or not,they would beat me up, and one time, almost killed me....three broken ribs, and a fractured leg bone.

ohhhh damn.

Well, for us, it was a debate. The others only joined in because they thought I was winning. :/ Sorry 'bout that. D:

No...it's ok.....You didnt know....cause I didnt explain myself...

Listen chris, I've had, and STILL have a rough life, My family? DEAD. My father is in the prison yard, my mother Died of Hepititus C, and my grandparents got killed because someone thought it was cool to steal from them, and they died 2 nights ago!you are NOTHING to me, you troll. you think it's funny to push me around, you sick monster, chris. is that it, troll? Now I KNOW what you are.

Hmm... Now lets see. Someone I know personally is constantly beaten by her whole senior family, was raped twice, got pregnant in 4th grade, had a kid in 5th grade, had to move from Vallejo, then to *insert city here* and THEN to an undisclosed location. Did I mention that her ex-boyfriend was brutally gored and slashed and tortured right in front of her? I may seem cruel to you, and I will admit that I'd had it off better than me.

But you know nothing of who I am.

I-I-I.....................I'm sorry...............................................................................................................................................................................

I-It's just hard....my grandparents were always there for me......and to know they're dead....and the teen who got away with it.........it make me Angry.........i feel miserable.....knowing they're so far away....I could'nt do anything to help them at all......i'm too far away fromt ehm...................

They live in Florida.....while I live many states away....in a slum....

Chris, you said "you know someone", however, that was not YOU who experienced anything horrible like that. Your parents are very nice people, and you're pretty popular/semi-popular in our group at school. Doomlord has a right to be upset over her ordeal, but just because you KNOW someone who's had it much worse, does not give you the right the mock Doomlord.

Doomlord, are you in middle school right now?

No...Not right now.....

What grade are you in?

I am not in any grade, sorry.....I passed my high school things, and now am in a government place known as "Jobcorps" For screwup, frackups, and people with no money.....

o i c.

oh, and I'm a HE.

I know. I'm mad at the people who mentally brutalized me. Just like you're mad at the people who made your life such a hell. But at least I can take pride in that, no matter what happens, no matter who laughs at me, deep inside my rugged exterior, I really am a human soul. Just like you.

*had it off better than you.

Oh, frack me, I can't type today DX

Chris, FF, you ain't helping the situation.

Doomlord, I never thought of this as an argument. Neither should you. <:(

I-I am sorry....

You don't have to be sorry, just don't act like it's the end of the world ^^;

Really, we were debating over the new and old Sonics. XD

I wasnt laughing at doomlord, just zi's comment

I expected it to be good, but not THIS good! You exceed my expectations once again miss Critic!

Kratos sucks XP

Oh joy! I'm so very glad that I have! That is my job, as a future artist, y'see.

Yes he does. :P

Very true.

And so does Mario :P As a character, since the only ONLY Mario game I liked was Sunshine >.>

I never got to play Sunshine back when I was a Mario fan. D;

Sunshine was a grand game. It was like Playing Super Mario 64 in a more tropical area, and it worked. =3

oh, so it was just the same thing again, only this time you get to clean up the city?

Wow, it's like having a boring job, without getting PAID!

Dont kill something just because it feel like the same thing! god, what's with you people, have you EVER Played a Mario game?

yes, I've played Super Mario 64, Mario Party 1-4, Dr. Mario, Mario Paint, and... I forgot the rest... XD

Nintendo uses the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" way of doing things, but if I'm just doing the same thing over and over and over again, I get a sense of deja vu, and suddenly I don't want to play the series anymore (see Pokemon [though I had some help into my state of complete loathing])

Pokemon is a great series, they dont change much, there are ADD ONs, If sonic had some of those, maybe they would'nt be so bad, but they COMPLETELY CHANGE IT, IT AINT RIGHT.

I'm pretty sure completely changing it is a GOOD thing.

If all Sonic games were completely the same, they wouldnt be fun at all. All of the recent Sonic games and even SA & SA2B had different storylines. Heck, not all of the games involve the chaos emeralds.

As for Pokemon... well... those ARE the same. yes, they put ADD-ONs.. but the storylines all have the same concept, just different villians.

I'm a SEGA-lover and a Nintendo-hater, but I'm not typing this out of hate. Im typing this due to the facts of Sonic games.

Nintendo needs to step up Mario's image a little. Sonic keeps getting new badass forms while Mario is stuck with his lame-@$$ power-up costumes. his newest ones were the penguin suit and the propeller suit...... wow... a penguin and a jumpsuit... that certainly is badass *sarcasm*

Don't forget the oh-so-badass RACCOON suit. XD

pfff... the raccoon suit... just... sad

how the hell does that turn him intoa statue and give him the ability to fly when he waves his tail UP and DOWN?!

Tails' way of flight (though obviously impossible) seemsa lot more logical than the raccoon suit

Propeller tails ftw!

YES! X3

Ok, the Penguin was stupid, sure, but Sonic Doesnt need to Have 50,000 forms, first of all, last time I EVER Played a Sonic Game, He had only Super Sonic, now he has a Werewolf, Genie form, Sword Carrying, Gun ztoting, and much more, to come. Mario Doesnt need much, and that's why he much more famous than Sonic. Sure, there are a bunch of Mario games I HATE, Yes, HATE, such as All of the Mario sports games, and Mario is Missing, and Mario's Time Machine. Mario is simple, and fun for everyone, dont get me wrong, Sonic is a awesome concept, Sonic just....Doesnt need A gun, or ANOTHER FORM. Sonic Is STILL My favorite Character (Along with Mario), and always will be. When you put it down pat, Sonic and Mario are both, the greatest Video Game Characters we know, from our time, AND yours. *Nods and Smiles*

Sonic doesnt HAVE a gun. SHADOW does. Shadow ruins Sonic's image. Yes, Im a Shadow fan, but it's true what I say.

And all of the other forms. The genie form (not an actual form)... I'm sure you mean Darkspine... and as for sword Sonic.. I'm sure you mean Golden Knight Sonic... and Werehog Sonic.... all of those forms were TEMPORARY. Sonic needs a change in appearance... we cant have the same blue blur in each game.

SA and SA2B were completely different. Different storylines, different concepts, even different gameplay. SA was never a favorite of mine, though I do enjoy the character Chaos... SA2B was GREAT Sonic came. SEGA needs to bring back the Chao.. seriously

Tails DOES have freedom of flight in most games where he is playable. Like Mariot hough, he has a limit to his flight time, which is why he rides around in the Cyclone... or Tornado... whatever it's called now.

I'd probably like Mario more if they gave him a storyline for once... but no... Nintendo gives us the same crap everytime. Mario Galaxy came CLOSE to having a storyline, but sadly, it was just basically another Mario 64 remake.

Mario Galaxy 2 will be the same

Dont even start with G2! It's gonna be great!

it's an expansion pack that walks like a sequel. :/

Everyone agrees, even the Mario fans.

so what? does it make it automatically bad? No, and I agree, finally the Koopalings are back, missed 'em all, from Ludwig to Iggy.

It means you're paying fourty to fifty bucks for EXTRA WORLDS. A muddafuggin' DLC pack, only it's worth ten times the amount of a DLC!

I don't care how "fun" a Mario game may seem. I refuse to pay half a hundred dollars for an expansion pack.

Isnt that what a Sonic game is too? they both are to blame, I mean, they were god concepts at the time, but they are BOTH DYING.

No, that's actually NOT what a Sonic game is, because Sonic games have "gimmicks". :3

you're still paying 60 dollars for crap that a brain dead shunk could've made up.

Can you completely program and fully artistically render over 74,000 miles of game area by yourself? Didn't think so.

Really, just like art, how good a game is is all in the eye of the beholder. As the beholder, Sonic Unleashed is one of my favorite games of all time.

No, but you cant either.

in fact, I will be able to with what I'm learning right now.

You're right. I can't. That's why I respect the people who CAN, and enjoy the game instead of finding new ways to complain about it. Why not read this article? I agree with it.

http://www.sonicstadium.org/community/destrutoid-speaks-out-against-whining-sonic-fans

I saw it, and still enough, I'm not saying anything about Sonic 4, I cannot WAIT until it comes out, this is what i'm talking about, it's simple, pure, and refreshing. I will say this, the new games are fun, and exilerating, and after looking at it from your view, I saw what you were trying to get out, after I openned up: Sometimes, a little change is a good thing. But, I will say this, sometimes, it's also good to give change a break, and get back to our roots. *Smiles*

This was never about Sonic 4, I just used that article as an example. ._.

...............Oh................



Well, I'm trying to end this farce, and you just skip it.........

riiight... you just keep telling yourself that... and Sonic games are only $50, noob

yeeaahhh... it's just G1 with more levels. more than likely, the levels will looks a lot similar to the ones in G1... basically no change at all

and i hope to god that god awful Rosalina isnt in the game

The only I see that makes it different from G1 and Super Mario 64 is the addition of Yoshi (riding on him).

Wow.. big deal. If they've added more power-ups, they'll be just as lame as the other ones.

BUT..
If they finally added a storyline... then I might just consider playing it.

Dont get me wrong, I like SOME Mario games. Like New Super Mario Bros. Wii....
I loved the fact that Nintendo brought back the koopalings

Tails is a Kitsune, So his way of flyin, although STILL impossible, is fair, Mario's Racoon Suit was supposed to give the game a little bit more freedom, Much like the Cape, or my favorite Powerup, The Wing Cape. Tails was meant to give the same thing: Freedom from the confiments of the earth, I mean, would'nt you wanna fly too?

SA and SA2B are'nt New, they are the same thing, from Sonic Adventure, and Sonic Adventure 2 from the Dreamcast.

and duh... i know they're not new and I know Sonic DX and SA2B are the same ones from the dreamcast... DUUUUH... they were remakes for the gamecube! The dreamcast was becoming outdated, so they remade the games for gamecube

I personally thought it was a smart marketing plan. Sega was always awesome at marketing.

it IS a smart marketing plan! :D glad you noticed SEGA's smartness X3

It was a great marketing plan, I have both they're so great!

you know what ELSE was a great marketing plan? When we first saw that teaser for Sonic 4, a.k.a., Project Needlemouse.

Everyone got excited, even though they had no clue what it was. XD

Something like SC4, or Gears of war. :3


Why dont we talk this out on my profile, it seems like this turned out to be a war, and I dont wanna start pushing this to the point where we're banned for threats.

war? Nonesense! This is only a friendly debate!

Just sounds like it.....I cant help but wanna stop....I dont like all this fighting......It hurts alot.

Dude, fighting is when insults start flying, and violence is threatened. D:

Not once have I insulted you. Perhaps you feel a little overwhelmed because you're against two people, instead of a one-on-one with me?

No....I just feel like it's fighting...I-I shoudl J-Just leave.......................*Tears* I ALWAYS START EVERYTHING!!!!!!

Sonic DOES have add ons. You call them "gimmicks". Other then that, it's usually the same thing. Get the chaos emeralds. Use them to destroy something evil. Roll the credits.

dear LORD you guys! D8>

you're all insane, lol.

*constipated Charmy voice* LOOK! LOOK! IT'S A WAR ZONE!!

I knew it was a fight..........I knew it!

No, not really, it's just a stupid quote from Shadow the Hedgehog. Sorry if I pissed you off for a moment ^^;

oh....ok.....

WE MUST PROTECT WHAT WE LOVE! AND THAT'S SONIC!

>:D HAHAHA

glad to see someone agrees with me! XD

KH is a series I'll always look forward to playing -w-

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's why i'm veering back towards KH, lol....... not that th KH fanbase isn't completely insane either XD

Don't get me wrong, i still love sonic <3 i just don't join into trivial arguments :P

KH is just as epic as Sonic... maybe even MORE epic! :D

KH is awesome!

That's because we know you're a nice person :3

Well of COURSE we're crazy...

... we're Sonic fans. XD

still awesome <3

heeee :3